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Tod Cheney's avatar

Never heard of this before. Thank you, Tina, for the work you are doing. You are one of the leaders of the resistance.

Tina Brown's avatar

Thanks, Todd. The subject of who colludes and who takes a stand is endlessly fascinating which is why i wanted to talk to Freedland. T

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So pleased! Happy reading T

Frau Katze's avatar

Great interview. Bought book.

Susan Podbielski's avatar

Tina Brown is a truth beacon, a great interviewer and journalist, and I could listen to her forever. Bravo, Tina. once again you elevate the discourse.

Tina Brown's avatar

what a cheering note that encourages me to keep trogging along T

Jane MacArthur's avatar

Fantastic discussion and so relevant. I particularly appreciate that Jonathon is unpacking the complexity of heroism. I think of the young people like the White Rose siblings who opposed the nazis as not to would have been to them collusion. Also Hans Litten a young lawyer who prosecuted the SA thugs and subpoenaed Hitler. He could have left Germany but wouldn’t abandon his clients. Sadly was imprisoned in the round ups of 1933. His mother Irmagard Litten was also extraordinary yet little known of them. So many really who otherwise would have led completely comfortable lives.

Tina Brown's avatar

yes its truly humbling to hear such stories, ,especially at time when cowardice is all the rage T

Patricia Harmanci's avatar

Fascinating, chilling because of our country today. “Justice is whatever serves the Fuhrer”—see a similarity? Also the women of the tea party: fathers instilled confidence which hardened into courage. A wonderful insight. Thank you, Tina. Will buy his books.

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Thanks yes and it is indeed chilling. None of us know how we would behave under such pressure until it happens. So glad you will buy Freedland's books T

Claus's avatar

In 2019 the German news magazine Spiegel, published a long story, written by a niece of Mrs von Thaddens, about the traitor who sold her aunt to the Gestapo, a doctor named Kurt Paul Otto Reckzeh. Interestingly, he did the same thing again, after the war, for the communist regime in East Berlin: he denounced opponents of the regime. He happily lived until 1996: https://www.spiegel.de/geschichte/der-nazi-spitzel-der-meine-tante-an-die-gestapo-verriet-a-00000000-0002-0001-0000-000162996754

Tina Brown's avatar

How appalling to think he lived on betrayal twice. what a twisted figure who was never called to account T