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My Video Chat with best-selling author Jonathan Freedland about his new book, The Traitors Circle, which tells the true story of a group of aristocratic Germans who resisted the Nazis

The book also examines the question: what kind of person stands up to tyranny?

Why do some people risk everything to oppose an authoritarian regime? And why do others collaborate— or become bystanders? That’s what Jonathan and I discussed in our talk about his riveting new book, The True Story of a Secret Resistance Network in Nazi Germany—and the Spy Who Betrayed Them. Freedland, a prize-winning Guardian columnist, talked (without giving any spoilers) about a group of elite German resisters who “shared a common denominator of belief in an authority higher than the rulers of the day.” When they were betrayed by a spy who penetrated their inner circle, these “faithful patriots,” whose “self-confidence hardened into courage,” suffered terrible fates.

We also covered what Freeland called a “chilling echo today,” the danger of “anticipatory obedience,” and the dilemmas global citizens face amidst the rise of overt or creeping authoritarianism.

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